http://abrx6wcpzkfpwxb5eb2wsra2wnkrv2macdtkpnrepswodz5jxd4schyd.onion/software.xhtml

http://63gxkfc4hlcbxrdoepw2i2hyxai5qkxmi636ag3y7sf5tq3imoya.b32.i2p/software.xhtml

Planned:

- Maybe add some more software

- Maybe add an extra link or two

Sxiv is no longer maintained. Nsxiv is an active fork.

https://nsxiv.github.io/nsxiv/

Maybe consider removing the sections which have their own articles (browsers, email, IM).

For text editors, you should probably list some of them instead of just saying "use what isn't cloud-based or massive bloat". I've used emacs, geany, mousepad, nano, and vim.

For the GUI toolkits, maybe write more about the other toolkits (like ncurses, gnustep, etc.). I remember using gtk3-classic on one of my computers and while it worked fine, it would glitch whenever I turned it on.

undercoverman

Sxiv is no longer maintained. Nsxiv is an active fork. https://nsxiv.github.io/nsxiv/

Cool, didn't know this. I'll have to check it out at some point, thanks.

undercoverman

Maybe consider removing the sections which have their own articles (browsers, email, IM).

Maybe, I was sorta thinking of it as a starting point for some people, but the wiki is still small enough that it doesn't really need a secondary directory I guess.

undercoverman

For text editors, you should probably list some of them instead of just saying "use what isn't cloud-based or massive bloat". I've used emacs, geany, mousepad, nano, and vim.

Yeah that should be done, but the software article was kinda thrown together quickly just to hopefully give people a general idea of what to do. Fine tuning can be done later (unless someone else wants to do it).

undercoverman

For the GUI toolkits, maybe write more about the other toolkits (like ncurses, gnustep, etc.). I remember using gtk3-classic on one of my computers and while it worked fine, it would glitch whenever I turned it on.

AFAIK there was a patch for GTK3 that would give it GTK2-style file windows. Is that what GTK3-Classic is? How did it work fine but also glitch? And yeah, they should be elaborated on, but I haven't really used them in programming or anything so my comments on them would be fairly minimal.

shadow

AFAIK there was a patch for GTK3 that would give it GTK2-style file windows. Is what GTK3-Classic is? How did it work fine but also glitch? And yeah, they should be elaborated on, but I haven't really used them in programming or anything so my comments on them would be fairly minimal.

Whenever I turn on the computer and log in on, the screen just shows random shit like broken pixels or shit for less than a second then goes back to normal. It's not a big issue.

By the way I may or may not be on digdeeper/spyware XMPP for a while since i've been having issues with my computer (the thinkpad). I'm using a backup computer for now, one which currently runs Devuan (and like the thinkpad I can't disable Intel ME which sucks) since I don't have to update as much on it, and i'm currently setting things up on it (like Tor). On the bright side, I can finally use Tor browser, but at some point I might just switch from Devuan or go back to my thinkpad since it's not rolling release and the packages are outdated.

The problem with my thinkpad was Xorg not loading properly and I couldn't fix it or even get connected to the internet, and I'm too lazy to fix it for now, but maybe one day i'll just install a new distro on top of it (this is what I usually did whenever there was a problem). This has not been a good day. I'll come back to the group chat as soon as I can. Could be tomorrow or not for a few weeks.

undercoverman

Whenever I turn on the computer and log in on, the screen just shows random shit like broken pixels or shit for less than a second then goes back to normal. It's not a big issue.

Oh I see, yeah that's not catastrophic.

undercoverman

By the way I may or may not be on digdeeper/spyware XMPP for a while since i've been having issues with my computer (the thinkpad). I'm using a backup computer for now, one which currently runs Devuan (and like the thinkpad I can't disable Intel ME which sucks) since I don't have to update as much on it, and i'm currently setting things up on it (like Tor). On the bright side, I can finally use Tor browser, but at some point I might just switch from Devuan or go back to my thinkpad since it's not rolling release and the packages are outdated.

The problem with my thinkpad was Xorg not loading properly and I couldn't fix it or even get connected to the internet, and I'm too lazy to fix it for now, but maybe one day i'll just install a new distro on top of it (this is what I usually did whenever there was a problem). This has not been a good day. I'll come back to the group chat as soon as I can. Could be tomorrow or not for a few weeks.

Ah, well that sucks. Usually you can exit Xorg using Ctl+Alt+F1 (or F2, F3 etc for the TTY number) and get to the command line. From there you could connect to wifi or whatever using wpa_supplicant or nmcli, and repair Xorg however it would need to be (using nano or vim for editing configs).

Also I agree about "release model" distros, their packages are usually out of date. However they (Debian/Devuan included) usually have a rolling option, however on Debianish systems this is usually called "unstable" or something. And it is exactly that, unstable.

Also regarding Intel ME, are you sure? I assume it must be one of the newer Thinkpads because of the older ones you can, even if you have to solder on a new BIOS chip. Some are harder than others, forcing you to dis & re-assemble the entire thing, where others (like the X200) only require you take off the trackpad part of the case.

Further reading: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/167386/how-to-switch-between-tty-and-xorg-session

shadow

Ah, well that sucks. Usually you can exit Xorg using Ctl+Alt+F1 (or F2, F3 etc for the TTY number) and get to the command line. From there you could connect to wifi or whatever using wpa_supplicant or nmcli, and repair Xorg however it would need to be (using nano or vim for editing configs).

Also I agree about "release model" distros, their packages are usually out of date. However they (Debian/Devuan included) usually have a rolling option, however on Debianish systems this is usually called "unstable" or something. And it is exactly that, unstable.

Also regarding Intel ME, are you sure? I assume it must be one of the newer Thinkpads because of the older ones you can, even if you have to solder on a new BIOS chip. Some are harder than others, forcing you to dis & re-assemble the entire thing, where others (like the X200) only require you take off the trackpad part of the case.

Further reading: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/167386/how-to-switch-between-tty-and-xorg-session

From my experience, rolling release distros aren't really unstable. I had been running Void for a year and a half before it broke and Arch-based distros have never broken on me. I upgraded to Devuan ceres (unstable) and will probably use that for now.

Yes, I ran some Coreboot utilities since my Thinkpad is corebooted, unfortunately it said Intel ME was hardwired in and can't be disabled.

undercoverman

From my experience, rolling release distros aren't really unstable. I had been running Void for a year and a half before it broke and Arch-based distros have never broken on me. I upgraded to Devuan ceres (unstable) and will probably use that for now.

I completely agree regarding rolling release, when it is done right anyway (ie Arch/Artix).

undercoverman

Yes, I ran some Coreboot utilities since my Thinkpad is corebooted, unfortunately it said Intel ME was hardwired in and can't be disabled.

Did you try flashing using a clip? Often it's just that internal writing to the BIOS chip is not allowed.